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 Dec 23 2009, 11:39 AM
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Did you know that military around the world used airguns for training? I ran an airgun club for years at Kermit Airgun Club . It's quiet, accurate, and great for practice. You can even shoot in your home at a pellet trap (a good long hallway is nice). Airguns these days range from mild to wild. Cummings tool sales have a little china gun for $20.00 that can be a lot of fun and good for practice, and did I mention the ammo is cheap
 Anyway, at the link above is the airgun club website that I run. It has lot's of information about airguns. It's just another tool for practice and you wouldn't believe what you can learn about ballistics, tactical scopes, adjustable objectives, and precision shooting just using an air rifle.
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Feb 5 2010, 05:14 PM
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Using air guns makes sense when training in areas where someone may call authorities becuse of all the gun shots.
We've used .22 rifles in our training x's. Cheap to shoot and don't make a lot of noise.  |
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Feb 6 2010, 05:56 AM
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From my point of view using air rifles makes perfect sense. Unless you live out in the country, it is the one rifle that allows you to train at home. Aside from the fact that it is the perfect way IMHO to introduce children to marksmanship training.
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Feb 6 2010, 11:23 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 116 Joined: 21-December 09 From: West Texas Member No.: 7,002 |
QUOTE (Ambush City @ Feb 5 2010, 05:14 PM)  Using air guns makes sense when training in areas where someone may call authorities becuse of all the gun shots. We've used .22 rifles in our training x's. Cheap to shoot and don't make a lot of noise. Didn't think anyone would chime in on this post, but for $20.00 you can pick up a .177 airgun and drop it in the mud, crawl around with it, etc. and not worry about messing up your AR-15 or AK...and it weighs about the same. Good point about it being very quiet also. Thanks. p.s. your picture scares me -------------------- That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government,...
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Feb 18 2010, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE (alienator @ Dec 23 2009, 09:39 AM) Did you know that military around the world used airguns for training? I ran an airgun club for years at Kermit Airgun Club . It's quiet, accurate, and great for practice. You can even shoot in your home at a pellet trap (a good long hallway is nice). Airguns these days range from mild to wild. Cummings tool sales have a little china gun for $20.00 that can be a lot of fun and good for practice, and did I mention the ammo is cheap Anyway, at the link above is the airgun club website that I run. It has lot's of information about airguns. It's just another tool for practice and you wouldn't believe what you can learn about ballistics, tactical scopes, adjustable objectives, and precision shooting just using an air rifle.http://www.quackenbushairguns.com/ (who knew you could take big game with an air rifle?? I didn't until just recently) I have a new found respect for air rifles. -------------------- "The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." Plato
Hosea 4:6 (KJV) My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: ..... "Education is favorable to liberty. Freedom can only exist in a society of knowledge. Without learning men are incapable of knowing their rights and where learning is confined to a few people, liberty can neither be equal or universal." Dr. Benjamin Rush 1786 I LOVE my Country, I FEAR my Government |
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Feb 18 2010, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE (xqrz499 @ Feb 18 2010, 09:52 AM) http://www.quackenbushairguns.com/ (who knew you could take big game with an air rifle?? I didn't until just recently) I have a new found respect for air rifles. I've shot one myself. Very fun and accurate. I've also shot a 20mm airgun. Wow, huge pellets. -------------------- That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government,...
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Feb 18 2010, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE (alienator @ Feb 18 2010, 08:00 PM) I've shot one myself. Very fun and accurate. I've also shot a 20mm airgun. Wow, huge pellets. 20mm airgun, what? I never heard of one and now want one. Are the expensive? -------------------- Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
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Feb 18 2010, 11:29 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 116 Joined: 21-December 09 From: West Texas Member No.: 7,002 |
QUOTE (DJ Mercado @ Feb 18 2010, 09:44 PM) 20mm airgun, what? I never heard of one and now want one. Are the expensive? As far as I know, there is only one. The barrel is from an Apache helicopter. Shoots hard and blows a full tank of air on 1 shot. The 20mm pellet will completely go through a big hog and leave a tunnel through it. -------------------- That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government,...
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Feb 18 2010, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE (alienator @ Feb 19 2010, 01:29 AM) As far as I know, there is only one. The barrel is from an Apache helicopter. Shoots hard and blows a full tank of air on 1 shot. The 20mm pellet will completely go through a big hog and leave a tunnel through it. The gun on the Apache is 30mm not 20mm. I'd like to know how they got their hands on a barrel from an Apache, seems like that'd be hard to do. -------------------- "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams
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Feb 19 2010, 12:19 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 116 Joined: 21-December 09 From: West Texas Member No.: 7,002 |
QUOTE (RyanB @ Feb 18 2010, 11:53 PM) The gun on the Apache is 30mm not 20mm. I'd like to know how they got their hands on a barrel from an Apache, seems like that'd be hard to do. Well, that's what I was told... a 20mm gun turret. Here is a link to a youtube video. 20mm airgun -------------------- That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government,...
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Feb 19 2010, 12:22 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 116 Joined: 21-December 09 From: West Texas Member No.: 7,002 |
QUOTE (RyanB @ Feb 18 2010, 11:53 PM) The gun on the Apache is 30mm not 20mm. I'd like to know how they got their hands on a barrel from an Apache, seems like that'd be hard to do. Looks like Apache does or did have a 20mm. here's a video of an Apache shooting one. 20mm apache gun -------------------- That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government,...
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Feb 19 2010, 02:07 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 117 Joined: 19-October 08 From: Cincinnati,OH Member No.: 4,918 |
QUOTE (alienator @ Feb 19 2010, 02:22 AM) Looks like Apache does or did have a 20mm. here's a video of an Apache shooting one. 20mm apache gun Did you look at the video title? "AH-1S 20mm Firepower (Cobra Helicopter)" The AH-1 Cobra and the AH-64 Apache are completely different helicopters. -------------------- "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams
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Feb 19 2010, 09:10 AM
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Ha LOL I have been to that range that the ROK helios are shooting at lol. And ya thats a AH-1 Cobra which is not an Apache in any manner what so ever, and yes the AH-1 carried a 20mm in some variants, and it would be easy as hell to get a barrel off of one, bone yards, surplus buys, the one sitting at VFW etc lol
-------------------- Train as we fight Fight as we Train ! Nex Ut Tyrannis.... Reaper aka MM6 www.machsa.org
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Feb 20 2010, 01:26 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 116 Joined: 21-December 09 From: West Texas Member No.: 7,002 |
QUOTE (RyanB @ Feb 19 2010, 02:07 AM) Did you look at the video title? "AH-1S 20mm Firepower (Cobra Helicopter)" The AH-1 Cobra and the AH-64 Apache are completely different helicopters. Yep, your right. Sorry about that. -------------------- That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government,...
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